lundi 29 mai 2017

Interim III, Flood to Abraham with Syncellus


Tas Walker and Myself on C14 : Glacial Maximum and End · Interim III, Flood to Abraham with Syncellus · Continuing Interim III to Joseph in Egypt

We make a little chart according to Peleg synchronised with Babel and Abraham in En-Geddi with Chalcolithic thereof.

Peleg 529 - 868, Abraham 1070 – 1245, in each case, after the Flood.

Longevity Charts as per LXX
http://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2015/11/longevity-charts-as-per-lxx.html


Babel's City starts getting built : 5 years after Peleg was born, 534 after Flood.

Dispersion of Languages, building of the City ceases : 40 years later, 574 after Flood.

Abraham in En-Geddi, 80 years after Birth; 1150 after Flood.

  • This chart is non-St Jerome, I will be treating this as Syncellus.

    5500 Creation BC
    2242 Flood Anno Mundi
    3358 Flood BC

    3358 BC
    0534 Babel begins
    2824 BC

    3358 BC
    0578 Babel ends
    2780 BC

    3358 BC
    1150 Abraham in En-Geddi
    2208 BC

  • Archaeological identifications of Flood, Babel and Abraham in En-Geddi, with the carbon dates:

    • Displacement of Neanderthals by Cro-Magnon in Europe (40 000 BP).

      40 000 BP =
      38 000 BC carbon
      03 358 BC real
      34 642 extra years

    • Göbekli Tepe (9600 - 8600 BC)

      9600 BC carbon
      2824 BC real
      6776 extra years

      8600 BC carbon
      2780 BC real
      5820 extra years

    • Chalcolithic of En-Geddi (3400 BC)

      3400 BC carbon
      2208 BC real
      1192 extra years


  • In detail

    • Flood to Babel

      3358
      2824
      0534/13=41.0769230769230769

      I 3358 II 3317 III 3276
      IV 3235 V 3194 VI 3153
      VII 3112 VIII 3070 IX 3029
      X 2988 XI 2947 XII 2906
      XIII 2865 XIV 2824


    • Extra years therein:

      34 642
      06 776
      27 866/13=2143.5384615384615385

      I 34 642 II 32498 III 30355
      IV 28211 V 26068 VI 23924
      VII 21781 VIII 19637 IX 17494
      X 15350 XI 13207 XII 11063
      XIII 8920 XIV 6776


    • Babel to Chalcolithic En-Geddi

      2780
      2208
      0572/14=40.8571428571428571

      XV 2780 XVI 2739 XVII 2698
      XVIII 2657 XIX 2617 XX 2576
      XXI 2535 XXII 2494 XXIII 2453
      XXIV 2412 XXV 2371 XXVI 2331
      XXVII 2290 XXVIII 2249 XXIX 2208


    • Extra years therein:

      5820
      1192
      4628/14=330.5714285714285714

      XV 5820 XVI 5489 XVII 5159
      XVIII 4828 XIX 4498 XX 4167
      XXI 3837 XXII 3506 XXIII 3175
      XXIV 2845 XXV 2514 XXVI 2184
      XXVII 1853 XXVIII 1523 XXIX 1192


    • Apparent years:

      I 38 000 BC II 35 815 BC III 33 631 BC
      IV 31 446 BC V 29 262 BC VI 27 077 BC
      VII 24 892 BC VIII 22 708 BC IX 20 523 BC
      X 18 338 BC XI 16 154 BC XII 13 969 BC
      XIII 11 785 BC XIV 9600 BC XV 8600 BC
      XVI 8229 BC XVII 7857 BC XVIII 7486 BC
      XIX 7114 BC XX 6743 BC XXI 6371 BC
      XXII 6000 BC XXIII 5629 BC XXIV 5257 BC
      XXV 4886 BC XXVI 4514 BC XXVII 4143 BC
      XXVIII 3771 BC XXIX 3400 BC


    • Pmc as per atmospheric level

      I 1.514 II 1.962 III 2.543
      IV 3.295 V 4.271 VI 5.535
      VII 7.173 VIII 9.297 IX 12.049
      X 15.616 XI 20.239 XII 26.23
      XIII 33.994 XIV 44.057 XV 49.459
      XVI 51.476 XVII 53.577 XVIII 55.763
      XIX 58.038 XX 60.405 XXI 62.87
      XXII 65.435 XXIII 68.105 XXIV 70.883
      XXV 73.775 XXVI 76.785 XXVII 79.918
      XXVIII 83.178 XXIX 86.572


Let's make a table, inserting the patriarchs from the longevity chart?

I 3358 BC
1.514 pmc 38 000 BC

Arphaxad *
3356 BC

II 3317 BC
1.962 pmc 35 815 BC

III 3276 BC
2.543 pmc 33 631 BC

IV 3235 BC
3.295 pmc 31 446 BC

Cainan *
3223 BC

V 3194 BC
4.271 pmc 29 262 BC

VI 3153 BC
5.535 pmc 27 077 BC

VII 3112 BC
7.173 pmc 24 892 BC

Shelah *
3093 BC

VIII 3070 BC
9.297 pmc 22 708 BC

IX 3029 BC
12.049 pmc 20 523 BC

Noah +
3008 BC

X 2988 BC
15.616 pmc 18 338 BC

Eber *
2963 BC

XI 2947 BC
20.239 pmc 16 154 BC

XII 2906 BC
26.23 pmc 13 969 BC

XIII 2865 BC
33.994 pmc 11 785 BC

Shem +
2858 BC

Peleg *
2829 BC

XIV 2824 BC
44.057 pmc 9600 BC

Arphaxad +
2791 BC

XV 2780 BC
49.459 pmc 8600 BC

Cainan +
2763 BC

XVI 2739 BC
51.476 pmc 8229 BC

Reu *
2699 BC

XVII 2698 BC
53.577 pmc 7857 BC

XVIII 2657 BC
55.763 pmc 7486 BC

Shelah +
2633 BC

XIX 2617 BC
58.038 pmc 7114 BC

XX 2576 BC
60.405 pmc 6743 BC

Serug *
2567 BC

XXI 2535 BC
62.87 pmc 6371 BC

XXII 2494 BC
65.435 pmc 6000 BC

Peleg +
2490 BC

Eber +
2459 BC

XXIII 2453 BC
68.105 pmc 5629 BC

Nahor *
2437 BC

XXIV 2412 BC
70.883 pmc 5257 BC

XXV 2371 BC
73.775 pmc 4886 BC

Reu +
2360 BC

Terah *
2358 BC

XXVI 2331 BC
76.785 pmc 4514 BC

XXVII 2290 BC
79.918 pmc 4143 BC

Abraham *
2288 BC

XXVIII 2249 BC
83.178 pmc 3771 BC

Serug +
2237 BC

Nahor +
2229 BC

XXIX 2208 BC
86.572 pmc 3400 BC

Terah +
2153 BC

Abraham +
2113 BC


Note that the oldest preserved writings are from archaeologically speaking 3500 - 2400 BC. But this means by the surplus of carbon dated years, that the very oldest, the proto-hieroglyphic and proto-literate in Sumerian, fall around point XXIX*, while the real starts** are closer to the archeological equivalents of the time of Joseph in Egypt, supposing his Pharao was Djoser.

This means of course that arguments like "Egypt and Babylon didn't get wet in the Flood" or "Sumerian and Akkadian were found before supposed divergence from original language at Babel" are very moot arguments, to say the very least.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Monday in Pentecost Novena
29.V.2017

Notes:

* "proto-hieroglyphic" inscriptions from about 3300 BC (Naqada III; see Abydos, Egypt, Narmer Palette), "proto-literate" period from about 3500 BC (see Kish tablet); administrative records at Uruk and Ur from c. 2900 BC., according to:

List of languages by first written accounts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_first_written_accounts


** According to same source:

c. 2690 BC Egyptian Egyptian hieroglyphs in the tomb of Seth-Peribsen (2nd Dynasty), Umm el-Qa'ab,
26th century BC Sumerian Instructions of Shuruppak, the Kesh temple hymn and other cuneiform texts from Shuruppak and Abu Salabikh (Fara period), Some proper names attested in Sumerian texts at Tell Harmal from about 2800 BC. Fragments of the Legend of Etana at Tell Harmal c. 2600 BC.
c. 2400 BC Akkadian A few dozen pre-Sargonic texts from Mari and other sites in northern Babylonia.
c. 2400 BC Eblaite Ebla tablets

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